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El Geo
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Posted - 2012.04.29 14:09:00 -
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no problem with afk cloakers imo but i still do love the idea of the old 'sonar' destroyer idea, i think it adds gameplay and more uses for destroyers = win  |
El Geo
Pathfinders.
Mining For Profit Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.29 14:22:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:El Geo wrote:no problem with afk cloakers imo but i still do love the idea of the old 'sonar' destroyer idea, i think it adds gameplay and more uses for destroyers = win Any idea that kills AFK cloaking would have to be accompanied by some kind of associated buff, this game is weighted heavily enough already in favor of allowing people to avoid combat. Nerfing sand box PvP even further is unwarranted, and it certainly isn't worth doing purely to give an extra use for dessies.
like blops being able to warp around cloaked you mean? to me the idea of adding something that gives more cat and mouse to a game is better than having just the cat |
El Geo
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Posted - 2012.04.29 14:42:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:Not really, no. Black ops warping cloaked isn't particularly useful when the vast majority of targets are going to be docked up when your cyno 5 toon enters local.
30 second time delay on local would be more useful.
yeah the lore isnt exactly correct, technically anything lighting a cyno (or via wh) into a system arent using gates so shouldnt show in local, lol theres tonnes of tweaks i'd like to see though, like not so direct cut off points for cyno's, like blops able to cyno into 0.5's or 0.6's (dont hate me)
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El Geo
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Posted - 2012.04.29 15:22:00 -
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lol, people who mine and mission during decs should pay attention, besides if they know you can blops into 0.5 or even 0.6, dont run missions there, just like if theres an afk cloaker in system, dont run the damned anoms like a tool |
El Geo
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Posted - 2012.04.30 12:39:00 -
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Francisco Bizzaro wrote:There's some good advice in post #4 of this thread for how to live with a cloaker in local. As long as you are actively flying and keeping aligned to a safe, you're in pretty good shape to avoid most of the trouble he can bring. For the case of the domi mentioned above, this is trivial. Problems do arise when you are multi-boxing 4 domis, in which case you may not get them all away in time. vOv. Whose fault is that?
Think of the poor cloaker. Whenever he shows up in a system, everyone scurries to the stations. They have 100% immunity there, and can wait him out for as long as they want. They might even go AFK! It's no wonder that the cloaker goes AFK himself.
So with the nerf to AFK cloaking, I propose a compensating buff. Ships that can fit a cov-ops cloak should also be able to fit a module which bumps ships out of station. This should save both parties a lot of boring waiting time and do away with AFK problems.
lol, i agree +1
i dont think theres anything wrong with afk cloaking, or cloaking in general, i just like the whole 'sub hunting' idea, and i wouldnt say make it easy either (insert long explanation of how i'd like to see it implemented like a destroyer/interdictor module that works like directional scan and sonar etc etc) yes yes i know, balance and buff, i still like blops in 0.5 or even 0.6 aswell as some form of local rework myself
i do lol at the folks who only want to make sov space more safe than it is, i expect they are the same people who say daft things like "learn to pvp and go to nullsec" but run and hide or only fight if they have |
El Geo
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Posted - 2012.05.06 11:42:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:I think there should be this probe that your ship jettisons that can't move, but stays in position for two hours and projects a field around it that decloaks any ship for 2000 meters around. Additionally you could give it 27,500 m^3 of cargo space and be able to rename it, because why the hell not?
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El Geo
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Posted - 2012.05.06 12:04:00 -
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Alice Katsuko wrote:A proposed solution:
lots of stuff
I personally dont like the idea of a decloaking probe, i think it does sound overpowered and easy to abuse for gate camps whereas a dscan option well, im useless at dscanning myself and ive only met a few people that are really quick with it so i felt that was a better option.
(Although i do like the sound of a depth charge type decloaking device, i just dont think its workable unless its like a bomb where you set the range and fire it in a direction, wait x minutes for reload).
I also agree cloaked ships should disapear from local (or at least covert ops ships should), nullsec is too easy for big alliances to just run around in big blob controlling vast areas of space they dont even live in.
Like i keep saying, cat and mouse is better than cat and station, if people have the tools to 'hunt' cloakers, and cloakers have the tools to actually stay hidden (like in w-space) then this can only encourage people to be outside rather than 'afk' cloaked while the rest sit in station, chances are these so called 'afk' cloakers (if anything like me) are actually very active, checking bounces, watching jumpbridges and running dscans watching your anomalies anyway
you have my votes on
- some sort of destroyer class ship for the 'subhunting' job, i think it should be weak and hard to use but able to travel with blops gangs (and HIGHLY speciaalized)
- covert ops for black ops ships
- remove covert ops cloakers from local
- not decloaking when you disconect
Currently i think wormhole space offers much better room for strategy and tactics than anywhere else in eve, you have as RnK put it "the drawbridge", stealth ACTUALLY works, small corps/alliances hold systems and make nice isk, systems can be seiged by other small entities (or large), theres risk, people mine etc within all that and ive never seen a single thread on "make local show everyone in wormhole space"
PS - Can we stop talking about cloaking like the only people that ever do it are afk please? no more nonsense about decloak timers or fuel for coverts, the latter being the most ridiculous idea ive heard of so far. |
El Geo
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Posted - 2012.05.06 22:51:00 -
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tbh im quite surprised no ones mentioned all those people who, when you enter local either dock, pos up or CLOAK |
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